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Lists of the near future?

Here is some more from DocRailgun!

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One of the interesting things about the Blood Angel Codex is that a number of useful (we won't say "competitive", because that means a certain something in the 40K world) lists are possible even under 2000 points.

In 1850 points it's very easy to field lists such as these:
- a "Razor Rush" list meant to get in close combat in the relative safety of Fast Razorbacks -
HQ - Mephistion
Elite - 4 Sanguinary Priests with no upgrades
Troops - 5 x 5-man Assault Squads with a melta and a power sword in a Heavy Flamer-armed Razorback
Fast Attack - 2 x Baal Predators with heavy bolter sponsons, storm bolters and extra armor
Heavy Support - 2 x Autocannon Predators with lascannon sponsons and dozer blades

- a shooty mechanized list -
HQ - 2 basic Librarians with The Blood Lance and The Sanguine Sword
Troops - 5 x 5-man Assault squads with a melta and a power sword in a Twin-linked Lascannon-armed Razorback
Fast Attack - 2 x Baal Predators with heavy bolter sponsons, storm bolters, and extra armor
Heavy Support - an Autocannon/Lascannon Predator, a Las/Las Predator, and a Whirlwind with a dozer blade

- "The Tears of Sanguinius" - an assault-squad list
HQ - 2 basic librarians with The Blood Lance, The Sanguine Sword, and a jump pack
Troops - 4 x 10-man Assault Squad with 2 meltas and power fist, 1 x 10-man Assault squad with 1 melta and power fist, 1 x 5-man Scout Squad with a heavy bolter, 4 sniper rifles, and camo cloaks
Elite - 5 x Sanguinary Priests with jump packs and power swords

- "Echoes of the Past" - a super-elite army
HQ - Dante
Elite - 3 Sanguinary Priests with jump packs
Troops - 6 x 5-man Sanguinary Guard with Death Masks and an Infernius pistol

- "Warp Angels" - lots of psykers
HQ - 2 Librarians with jump packs, The Blood Lance and The Sanguine Sword
Elite - 3 Furioso Librarians with Wings of Sanguinius and The Sanguine Sword
Troops - 15 Death Company w/ jump packs, 6 power fists (or 10 power swords), Lemartes and 2 DC Furiosos with 2 Blood Talons

We could, of course go on and write some Dreadnought lists, or Storm Raven lists, or lists full of Assault Terminators with Sanguinary Priests in Deep Striking Land Raiders, but those are easily done as well.

So the question is, what will the lists opposing the BA look like fairly soon?

It seems safe to assume that a lot of lists now are melta and mech heavy lists. But what happens when there are 10 Lascannons on the field and 6 of them (twin-linked) can move 12" and still fire, and the others can be brought to bear while still moving 6"?

Does that bring out the footslogging armies packed with melta, or an arms race of lascannons? If the former, what is that countered with? Triple Vindicator and Triple Baal lists, or Furious Charging Assault squads with power sword lists?

What do people then field against the Sanguine Host? Land Raiders? Would that not bring the BA's Fast Lascannons back? As many Outflanking units as possible? Is that when the Blood Taloned Furiosos come out?

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Rulebook study for the new Codex

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Though the Blood Angels Codex release is a few weeks away yet, let me direct you to a few bits from the main rulebook to get the reader ready.

(p. 42) Lightning claws allow the wielder to reroll failed to wound rolls. They also ignore armor saves like a power weapon.

Page 35 ("Who Can Fight?") states that only models in base contact with a model in another unit or within 2" of a friendly model in base contact with an enemy model may attack in that close combat... BUT they can still be killed by the enemy and the result of the combat will still affect them.

"Allocating Wounds" (p. 39) reenforces this last point, as it reminds us that ALL of the models in the target unit can be hit, wounded, and killed, including those that are not engaged. In fact, the section encourages players to take casualties from non-engaged units so that the engaged units can strike back.

There is an Apocalypse datasheet for the Orks that consists of 100+ Orks. It is considered one single unit for all purposes. Thus, it follows that even if a model in this 'uge mob was 8' away from a model attacking one end of the mob, it can be taken off as a casualty but only the models within 2" of an engaged model can attack.

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Doc points out some of those "Duh" rules that I am fond of talking about myself. It is interesting that you could assault a squad of orks, and models a foot away get taken off the table. The question is, how can you use this to your advantage? A Tau player I met up in a tournament used a squadron of Piranah very well, hiding two so that he would always get a cover save, and giving those the wounds. They were tough to take down!

Jawaballs

Warhammer 40k Bood Angels: The Way of Sanguinius?

I just got this from Brother Captain DocRailgun... cant wait to see the results. Keep this stuff coming, and if any one else wants me to post coverage of their battles and armies, please send the content!


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Brother-Captain Jawaballs,

In the next month or so my Blood Angels will join they fray in a "War
Without End" campaign, and to seed the players our new club (The Lords
of War) will be holding a tournament. This tournament will require
lists of a thousand points with no named characters (which really
helps Orks).

Though the new SM Codex could have provided me with more options for
fewer points, I decided to go with the BA Codex and try out the "Way
of Sanguinius".

My list looks like this:
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/livingflag/40K/100_0166.jpg

HQ:
Chaplain

Troops:
2 x Assault squads (sgt with power fist), in Rhinos w/ extra armor
Full Tactical squad w/ lascannon
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/livingflag/40K/100_0172.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/livingflag/40K/100_0173.jpg

Elites:
DC Furioso
3 DC in Rhino w/ extra armor
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/livingflag/40K/100_0167.jpg

Heavy Support:
Baal Predator w/ heavy bolter sponsons and storm bolter
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/livingflag/40K/100_0170.jpg

Unfortunately, I need to do some painting to get these squads up to
standards, but there is a good amount of time until the tournament
begins.
In the meantime, I will be testing my list against as many opponents
as I can... at least one very soon. I will keep you up to date with
how my battle brothers do.

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