Here is a question I got asking for help on building an Ultramarines list.
my Ultramarine Army list problem
Hey Jawaballs,its suckthetyranidsdick8.
I have a problem with my army list.All the friends i have and they are intrested in WH40K are telling me that my list what i made isnt ok.So im asking what do you think about the list.here is the list:
Space Marine 1750 points Army list
HQ:
Captian Cato Sicarius=200 pts
Chapter Master Pedro Kantor=175 pts
Elites:
Techmarine & 4 servitors=90 pts
-2 servitors with heavy bolters........+40
Total=130 pts
Terminator squad=5 models=200 pts
Terminator squad=5 models=200 pts Replace storm bolter with assault cannon.........+30 pts
Total=230 pts
Sternguard veteran squad=5 models=125 pts
Sergeant-power fist &melta bombs=both=30 pts
1 Sternguard model-combi-flamer=5 pts Total=160 pts
Troops:
Tactical squad=9 marines and 1 sergeant=180 pts
1x flamer
Scout squad= 5 models (including Scout Sergeant Telion)=125 pts
Rhino=35 pts
Extra armour............+15
Total=50 pts
Fast attack:
Assault squad=5 models=100 pts
Sergeant:-Storm shield= 15 pts Total=130 pts
-Power weapon= 15 pts
Heavy support:
Tunderfire Cannon=100 pts
Techmarine=50 pts
-power weapon.....+15 pts
Total=100 pts
Total=1750 pts
Jawaballs Answers:
When I make an army list for some one, I lean them in two major directions. 5th edition has rendered the game down to Torrent of Fire, and mobile troops. I let them keep their commanders since they have chosen them and want to play them. But I try to modify the rest of their list to be more competitive. So Here is what you need to do.
Drop the Techmarine and servitors, and drop the Thunderfire Cannon and Techmarine. Yes, I understand that they are cool, but really shouldnt be used in a 1750 point game because for the points, they dont pack the punch you need. I would save them for appocalypse. The Thunderfire is a gimmick at best. Dont take it at all.
Replace them with Predator tanks, auto cannons, heavy bolters, storm bolters, extra armor. At least 2, 3 is better.
Drop the assault squad. Buy a couple of speeders with Typhoon missle and melta guns.
Get a Land Raider, put your commanders and a terminator squad with storm shields in it.
Keep your other terms if you like, deep strike or march them... get that assault cannon shooting. If you can add a missle launcher too, do so.
Sternguard are ok. Put them in a rhino. I think they are scoring with your commander right?
If you are using scouts, get Tellion.
Get more tacticals put them in rhinos.
Keep one ten man tactical with a Lascannon back to place on an objective on your side of the board.
What you want is a fast moving army in rhinos, supported with Predator tanks using Torrent of Fire... as many shots as possible. Ram your Land Raider Crusader down their throats, unload and kill every thing you can. Support them with your Sternguard. Go claim objecvtives with your rhino. Shoot every thing that moves with the preds. Speeders can sit back and shoot their missles, or support your assault with their melta guns.
Take your time, count up your points, and post here your progress!
Enjoy. Jawaballs
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