2009 Battle for Salvation Fall tournament results!

Hey all! First off, make sure to watch my youtube channel for the video uploads from this tournament. I got a lot of footage and will be posting it up furiously all week. But on with the batreps!

I went to this tournament with a fully untested list and very low expectations for myself. This was a 2k point tournament and I have played very few games at this total, and the ones I did were with a very different list. I had success at Mechanicon at 1850 with 2 Venerable Furioso dreads, so I went balls out and played 3 venerable death company furioso dreads. All I can say is "Epic". One is scary, but three? Lets say that they earned their name, Furioso. They were some Mad Robots.

The rest of my list was filled out by my three jacked Baal Preds, 2 two bike attack bike squads with meltas, two tactical squads with rhino, lascannon, meltagun and power weapon, and a Colorados, captain of the 2nd company. (So far as I can tell, that is the offical name of the 2nd company captain for the BA.)

At first glimpse, my army gets two reactions. "Shooty Blood Angels?" With a scrunched up mock confused face... and "Where are all your troops? Two troops squads?" Etc. I just smile and shrug.

Game One:

Matt and Bobby, the head organizers, opened up this tournament to something unusual. They allowed round one challenges. If some one wanted to drop a challenge on round one, the challenged player could decline. Or take the challenge. Basicly Matt allowed dudes with balls to step up and pick a hard opponent to begin with. Only one challenge was made however. Charlie, the guy I narrowly beat in round three of the first BFS tournament to earn me the best overall win wanted a rematch. Remembering his bad ass Blood Angel army led by Mephiston, I wanted no part of him and tried to weasel out. Matt would have nothing to do with that though, calling me nickname for a female cat and giving Charlie his shot at glory. Accepting my fate, I lined up across from Charlie, and announced to him that he would indeed suffer this affront.

Time to deal some suffering.

My 2k BA vs Charlie's 2k BA. Charlie ran a new list though. Dante, a couple rhinos and razorbacks, a couple of assault squads, one being a 10 man squad, a couple of tactical squads, again, one being a 10 man squad, a 5 man Devastator squad, and a Predator with all Lascannons and a Land Raider full of Death Company.

Kill Points Modified: We had to select 5 units of our enemy force and nominate them as KP. Those 5 KP were the only ones we could grab earn.

Modified DoW. Instead of DoW happening on turn 1, you rolled randomly for it. On a 4+, DoW happened, but it only happens once per game.

Turn 1:
I won the die roll! Or did I seize initiative? I forget, and I forgot to make video, so I will never know. It matters not though. Suffering would come early, and I would waste no time trying to cut him down. I deployed just my two Lascannon Combat Squads in cover. Every thing else came on turn one except the pods with dreads.

Charlie selected my angel wing Predator, two bike squads, and two rhinos as his kill points. I selected a rhino and razorback, a 5 man tactical, a 10 man tactical and I forget which other at the moment.

So I rolled on my forces and got them ready to advance and slaughter in turn 2. My Lascannons shot at a Razorback, but failed to destroy it. My bikes turbo boosted up for a second turn attack on his Land Raider. That was about all I could do.

On his turn, he rolled out his forces, getting them all on the table. With my Las and Melta guns, and knowing that he had to protect his rhinos, he kept them back and away from my guns. This left his assault forces having to advance into my predator fire. It would go badly.

Turn Two:
I deal some big hits. First of all, all three pods came down. I played balls to the wall. Go big or go home. In every game I dropped my pods very close to the edge of the board, right in the thick of it. I drop one near his devastators and the 10 man tactical in rhino hiding near a bastion. The other two drop near his Predator and razorback. I kept them well away from the Land Raider and death company. The stuff that was nearby was particularly squishy, the only thing he had on that side of the table that could hurt my dread was a single power fist.

My predators shot up a tactical squad, reducing it to 4 models that my Death Company would assault, and also his Devs, reducing them to two models. My dreads destroyed both his Predator and the razorback. And to make matters worse, my attack bikes destroyed his Land Raider. The game went very badly, very fast for Charlie.

On his turn, he assaulted my dreads. He dual assaulted them with his 10 man jump squad, and he threw in Dante and a 5 man tactical. This was not a good idea. His shooting was accurate, but the venerable dreads shruged off his shots. Turning two destroyed results into Shaken instead. Then It was time for the assault.

Poor Charlie, his Blood Angels resembled those from the recent GW novels. No luck at all. (By the way, Charlie is a cool dude, and he knows this is all for fun. I am not being a dick to him.) He failed to hurt my dreads, and I dealt 5 wounds, killing 3 members from the tactical squad and two from the assault squad. Not a big deal, but when you lose combat by 5, that means leadership tests... Luckily Dante was not attached to the squad and he kept his Fearless feature. That would mean my dreads could not sweeping advance. His tactical squad made its leadership, but the Assault squad with the only weapon that could hurt my dreads failed... and with my dreads being locked in combat, they escaped and ran off the table. His death company assault and killed the bikes that destroyed their ride.

Turn Three:

I moved up my rhinos previously to deal with his 10 man tactical. My dread moved and popped the rhino and my troops assaulted. Risky, but I wanted that squad dead. Most of them would die in the charge to three power weapon attacks, including my captain. The dread was short on movement to get into base to base. But I didnt need him. My predators took out his devastators and finished off his first assault squad, and my two Lascannon combat squads started working on his Death Company. I would get two rounds of shooting on them.

On my assault though, my dreads would pretty much finish the game. One squished Dante and the other finished off the tactical.

Turn Four:

The game was pretty much over. My Lascannon squads finished off his Death company, and by the end of my turn he had nothing left on the table. I condensed a lot of the action and might not be accurate on when things happened, but it was definitely over at the middle of four, without Charlie taking his turn. Massacre for me!

Charlie was prepared for my predators and knew what they can do, but was completely unprepared for the dreads. Those things would turn the tide in all three of my games today.

As for the day? I will go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. Jawaballs repeated for Best Overall and this was a big tournament with some great players. It came down to a tie breaker between me and Greg Sabino from Brothers Grimm and his name is Saab online here, and the nod went to me due to strength of opponents. I played my last two games on the 1st and 4th tables, meaning I played against the 1st and 7th best performing guys sequentially. Greg, while matching my battle points, did it on lower ranking tables and against guys who scored less battle points. Table one was the highest ranking table and so forth. While Greg's opponents may have been no less skilled then mine, they scored less battle points, making them "weaker" in this tournament. We were tied at sportsmanship. The only other tiebreaker could have been painting, but since Matt did not use a numeric rubric to judge painting, there was no real score to measure. I would have probably won any way though if painting was a tie breaker. (Not to be cocky or any thing. It's just that my army was in the running for best painted, and had I just a little more time to finish the details like power swords and transfers, might have won. Greg's, while nice, was not there.)

That wraps up game one. I will post game two tomorrow. Loads of video to come too.

More to come...



CJ said...

Really nice list jawwa :) love to see dreadnoughts actually doing something :), did you end up making 3 of those deathcompany dreadnoughts or just 2 and one of your regulars?

Anyways looking forward to the video's and Congratulations on getting top spot again.

Cheers CJ

p.s. Did you get a picture of the army on the display board? would love to see it.

jawaballs said...

I will be posting video of my 3 new dreads. I painted them all for this tournament. I did them all, and 3 pods, in 8 days. One of them didnt even arrive until Tuesday before the tournament! :)I will get some display board images of the army up.

CJ said...

you did all that in the week before the tournament! You never seize to amaze me with your painting speed. Assembled and painting 1 dread would take me a week all ready. Curious how the actually finished drop pods turned out with the finishing jawwa touches :).

cheers CJ

p.s. how is your wife and soon te be released mini Jawwa doing? I hope things are well :)

jawaballs said...

In about a week I assembled a pod, and painted 3 pods, assembled an Iron clad dread and a SM Venerable Dread (the metal one) and painted them along with another dread I already had assembled. I also assembled and painted a Space Marine Captain, but didnt finish his sword... just ran out of time.

I also incurred the wrath of my wife to be by ignoring her for a week straight, and progressed the arthritis in my hands by about 10 years. :)

Baby is great so far, just 3 more weeks. At the tournament one of the guys at Brothers Grimm told me they were holding their next tournament on December 13. I thought about it for about .5 seconds then conceded the fact that the Jawa-Baby is due that day and the wife would not like me missing it to win another Golden Squig. :)

CJ said...

hehhe yes I believe not even a Furiouse Dreadnought will save you from the wrath of a women ;). But good to here the mini jawwa is ok. best of luck :)

but that's some incredible speed of painting mate. Curious why you would use an Ironclad model ( to be honest not my favorite dreadnought model) But I guess the picture will tell.

Just watched the first video and was pleasantly surprised to see Fritz go top dog with necrons :D

Cheers CJ

jawaballs said...

I happened to have the model on a shelf, loot from another tournament. But I like the model, and it has all the options for a furioso. The trio look pretty good.

Saab(Greg) said...

I love ya Chris, but lets not make it seem I had a walk in the park and did the "Leap Frog". I was on Table 2 in the Third round, and to call Matt and Ed "weak" opponents is doing them a disservice.

BTW Bob and Black Matt screwed up the math on the Opponent's scores. It was 115-100 in favor of you, not 115-73 as originally thought. My second round opponent's final score was totally off. (*I took a copy of the final printout*

Jwolf said...

Congrats on the win. It's always nice to start out by smashing somone who calls you out.

Saab(Greg) said...

Crap, I see how my last comment could be read that I'm claiming YOU said my opponents were weak players. Not the case
I hate the internet sometimes

jawaballs said...

Sigh. Greg, I went and edited the post. I changed the wording to be more clear on what I meant so as not to cause any offense. When I said weaker, I was referencing the term in the eyes of the tie breaker only. On this day, the guys you played against scored less points, making them weaker opponents. It is not saying they are weaker players, only that they had weaker scores. I sorta figured that every one would just "get it" but hey... never assume.

In other words, the guys I played against scored more battle points then the guys Greg played against. That gave me the tie breaker.

That better?

jawaballs said...

Thanks Jwolf,

Charlie has been calling me out since I beat him in our last tournament. He has also been buying my resin bases! :) He is a great guy and I wish I had video of the game but I forgot to shoot it.

Of even more interest though, is Fritz, who played Necrons... go watch my new Youtube video! :)

Saab(Greg) said...

Dude, you're misreading me.
Like I said in my second comment, I'm not saying You or I are calling our opponents strong/weak. I'm saying the nature of the way the tie-breaker works, it ranks based on who played "stronger" opponents. To call someone a strong/weak opponent due to a raw score does our opponents a disfavor.

You had what I would consider a "harder" opponent list overall. I don't doubt that for a second, and the scores showed it. However, it was the handful of grumbles and WTFs I heard when saying goodbye that made me post the new tiebreaker score.

jawaballs said...

I hear ya man, I get it now.

I guess there will be grumblings no matter what. I hope all the Grim boys can just remember that we like and respect you all and would not pull any shenanigans to try to get our guys loot.

Especially since all the loot that was auctioned off and given out with the exception of the winners gift certificates (which were paid for with the entry fees) came out of our own pockets. We don't have a store and we pay retail for that stuff. I personally donated about 200 bucks worth of stuff to this tournament because it is about charity. Matt and a few guys gave countless hours to build and paint terrain and tables. Plus loot of their own. Etc.

We are not going to try to rig the winners, or rig who gets into the tournament, rig who wins an auction, or any thing else.

We consider Grim our brother club and believe me, if Matt would have had his way, he would have had one of you guys or one of the guys who drove up from Virginia win the whole thing.

Saab(Greg) said...

We feel the same way about you guys. We love having you come down to our shop; plus you guys raise our overall gamesmanship. Hell, look how far we've both come since we played on table 50 at Baltimore GT '08. It was extremely apparent how much hardwork you all put into this, and were wonderful hosts as always.

I didn't cross our minds for a nanosecond that any shenanigans was going on. As I told Matt, we had to use the same tie-breaker method in the past since our BPs and 1st tiebreaker were all tied.
Anyone who thinks you guys "rigged" the tourney needs their heads checked.

I think the WTFs were in regard to ME getting 2nd, not you getting 1st. My "opponent score" was crazy LOW compared to 3rd-6th place. We're talking like a 30+ point difference due to the tie breaker mis-calculation.

Trust me, our group won plenty of stuff that day. I just feel bad I, personally, couldn't have donated more. Though, I'll have to make it up in February.

Last time I checked, none of us got into 40K for the fame, fortune, and girls. :)

UltraBob said...

Chris, Greg,

The tie breaker is my fualt. Excel was supposed to add the 3 rounds together. it didnt do it for a few people and i should have checked by hand afterwards. I fixed the final sheet and il post it on the yahoo group


pissclams said...

I just want to clarify that i consider Grimm to be our "Sister" gaming group....

wink ...wink...

BTW great game Gregg...


Thomas aka Goatboy said...

Jawesome!!! Congrats man - how many players?

jawaballs said...

Hey man, thanks, there were 40.

SgtMikey said...

You brought an ordinary captain? A CAPTAIN? Man, you sure must have balls as big as a jawa's head...

Did he actually do something or was he just a shiny icon of leadership 10?

I would love to see your list in detail!

jawaballs said...

Yup, just a Captain. Dante and Corbulo wanted to let the Captain of the 2nd company earn his bars for once. You are right, his primary as intended was to give my attack bikes and combat squads leadership 10. I spent an extra 25 points on him to give him a power sword and combi melta. Both came in handi too! The combi destroyed a vindicator that was contesting an objetive in one game and killed Eldrad in another while he put most of a 10 man tactical squad to the sword with his power weapon.

Saab(Greg) said...

Last time I checked, Ed, we're not the club with a guy who plays in a plaid pleated skirt :)

And likewise, excellent game Ed. Games like that are why I love having you guys around. You played tough as nails, while being a true gentleman.

Hope to see you all at Conflict GT this January.

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