However, just for fun... If I were going to make a list to slaughter Tau, what should I bring?
Tau have 3 main threats and are awesome vs Mech.
Threat One:
Pathfinders. Markerlights are sick. Moreso than any power in the game, Markerlights make marines whimper. One second we are sitting in our Land Raider all smoked up and giggling about how we are about to disembark and eat Tau Crunchies, the next the LR is exploded and we have no cover and are being mowed down by plasma fire. Also, they are hard to kill with shooting. Get them into a ruin and they get a 3+ cover save. Pathfinders need to be dealt with immediately.
Threat Two:
Hand in Hand with the Pathfinders comes the Rail Gun. Broadside suit squads and Hammer Heads. Typically you will see a hammer and two squads of 3 suits. The gun is Str 10, AP 1 and can reach any thing on the table. Plus, those pesky suits have a 2+ save and can take lots of drones giving them extra wounds. Tough to kill to say the least.
Threat Three:
Mobility. Tau Crisis suits can jump 12", shoot all kinds of hardware, at different targets, then jump away 6". Tau Pirhana can pack melta guns and zoom all over the place. They slice through light armor without even trying and are death to Land Raiders. Plus they have a nasty habit of moving and blocking your lanes of advance.
These three factors lend themselves to Space Marines getting blasted off the table routinely by those pesky Xenos. How do I stop from getting tabled early? Well, Blood Angels have a big advantage over all other marines... Fast Vehicles. If you are going first, move every thing 18" and pop smoke. Sure his pathfinders will take away the cover saves... but not all of them! Odds are that next round you are going to have something in his ranks causing problems. Las cannons are good. Shoot the crap out of the things that are going to block your advance. I know, you are tempted to shoot the Broadsides right? Don't. Odds are you may kill one, but you will have to sink a LOT of shots into them to do it. They are going to shoot no matter what. Move what you can, and use your tanks and devastators to sit back and pick off the pirhana and devilfish. Yes they are probably always going to have cover saves. That is why you need a LOT of shots!
You are taking a crap shoot either way, but take the better gamble. Some of your forces will reach the lines... it is better to stop him from being able to stop you from assaulting than to try to whittle down his guns. You will get to them eventually, and once you do, they go down like five dollar whores.
Whirlwinds are nice too at taking away the pathfinders. I actually may just take one in my army for shits and giggles. It will give me a few points to spend on upgrades, and the right shot can completely take out a pathfinder squad... pretty much eliminating the serious Tau threat.
Muahaha.
Jawaballs
14 comments:
yep the one sure fire way to kill fish is to get in thier faces and whack thier balls with a woofle ball bat =]
I say you take the whirlwind since they were one of your favorite models early on and for shits and giggles, plus who plans for BA artillary anyway? good shock to the senses
-kevinmcd28
Vanguard Vets yeah baby!
Don't forget that as a fast vehicle, a BA Whirlwind can move 6 and still fire as a barrage.
Good luck versus the Xenos scum...sooo much firepower coming your way man, get in the foxhole!
On threat 3: Mobility...Tau jet packs can only move 6", assault 6"...not move 12", assault 6"...that'd be crazy mobile!
Let your aim be true brother!
Venerable Brother
Maybe take advantage of Descent of Angels and drop some units close to his suits? Throw Dante in for a scatter-free drop?
I think dropping some death company behind his lines might be a fun thing to try, or teleporting down some Storm Shielded Terminators.
But hey, I like to plan tactics for the look of the thing, rather than for their chance of success. Success is boring if it always comes from the same direction :-)
Redeemer in deepstrike, full of death company squad. Or baal with flamestorm or razorback with heavy flamer. Say goodbay to your 4+ armour save and cover save. Also the feel no pain of the death company prevents a huge amount of fire that normally kill you (I assume you already have a sanguinary priests for the other squads)
did old shatter hands use any kroot? especially kroot hounds, marines hate them. with 12 on the charge thats 36 S 4 I 5 attacks. thats a couple dead marines.
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Whirlwind with incendiary. Takes care of the cover.
@Valhallan42nd, the Whirlwind needs to stay stationary to fire a barrage, being fast simply means it can move 12" and fire direct.
Reserve everything and pod in two Furioso's with Blood Fists. S10 is great for popping those tanks in the rear, with your meltas when you first come down, then own with fists later on.
Blood Angels are going down for The Greater Good!
Tau pathfinders do not get any cover save bonus when shot at. I believe you are mixing them up (understandably so) with Eldar pathfinders.
Venerable is correct that you only get 6" movement phase move, not 12" with Tau jet packs(all excluding vespid)
It appears your field knowledge of the Tau Empire will be you downfall Jawaballs haha!
Moving 12 and being able to jump 6 in assault is how the battlesuits should move but sadly the "hit and run" experts can more really hit and jog hehe. I expect Old Shatter Hands will teach you the way of the Mont'ka and the Kauyon!
Cheers for the blogroll add, i'm already seeing an increase in traffic!
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